P&R I 30c Wool

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Re: P&R I 30c Wool

Notapor Rein » 09 Sep 2011 10:21

The 30c Wool with brown fibers in the Wiggins Teape paper - parallel watermark, symmetrical paper wire, density 30/20!

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Not just brown, yellow as well!!

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Re: P&R I 30c Wool

Notapor Rein » 09 Sep 2011 10:23

The 30c Wool with brown fibers in the Wiggins Teape paper - parallel watermark, symmetrical paper wire, density 30/20!

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Re: P&R I 30c Wool

Notapor Rein » 09 Sep 2011 10:29

The 30c Wool with brown fibers in the Wiggins Teape paper - parallel watermark, symmetrical paper wire, density 30/20!

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Not just brown, yellow as well!!

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Re: P&R I 30c Wool

Notapor stamps9407 » 17 Oct 2011 21:59

Rein, may this be MI6? I cut something (left and bottom in order to be able to upload it to the foro)

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MI6?


The watermark position is M but to me it looks like orthogonal and symmetrical, but not sure really

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Re: P&R I 30c Wool

Notapor Rein » 17 Oct 2011 22:42

stamps9407 escribiste:Rein, may this be MI6? I cut something (left and bottom in order to be able to upload it to the foro)

pyri030_v01b_1200_r1c1_foro.JPG


The watermark position is M but to me it looks like orthogonal and symmetrical, but not sure really

Thanks

Sergio


Sergio,

this looks indeed like the Wiggins Teape uncoated paper with an orthogonal watermark, asymmetrical paper wire and direction of paper parallel to the small side of the stamp! MI 6 or Mate Importado rayado horizontal! In use since 1951!

It can be confused with the Rayos Rectos Nitidos but that one has a more fluffy surface and the vertical distance between two lines of AЯ that are the same is 35mm instead of 30mm for the MI 6.

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Re: P&R I 30c Wool

Notapor stamps9407 » 23 Oct 2011 09:27

Rein
The following stamps
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Parallel Watermark asymmetrical?


Looks like Parallel watermark and asymmetrical, so far the only paper I have detected with those characteristics is MI5 (

Is that correct?

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Re: P&R I 30c Wool

Notapor Rein » 23 Oct 2011 10:43

stamps9407 escribiste:Rein
The following stamps
pyri030_v01b_1200_r1c3_foro.jpg


Looks like Parallel watermark and asymmetrical, so far the only paper I have detected with those characteristics is MI5 (

Is that correct?

Thanks
Sergio



Sergio,

this an orthogonal watermark with a symmetrical paper wire, direction of paper vertical!

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As far as I can see it is a 30c MI 2 or Austriaco! 1937 printings! The heart-to-heart distance between 2 suns horizontally should be 16mm instead of 17.5mm...

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Re: P&R I 30c Wool

Notapor Rein » 20 Dic 2011 16:19

So far all the brown fibers are in papers supplied by Wiggins Teape from England!

Quite a surprise it is to find brown fibers in other papers as well!

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Paper without watermark! Symmetrical paper wire, direction of paper horizontal!

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