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The direction of paper is always horizontal, the direction of printing is R [ink flowing towards the right].

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In detail you can also see the screen - gauge 70 lines/cm:

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The direction of paper is always horizontal, the direction of printing is R [ink flowing towards the right].

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In detail you can also see the screen - gauge 70 lines/cm:

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The direction of paper is always horizontal, the direction of printing is R [ink flowing towards the right].

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In detail you can also see the screen - gauge 70 lines/cm:

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Rein escribió:The 20p surface mail! There is NO WIFAG printing!

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Why there is no WIFAG printing???

Elementary!

The WIFAG was printing only ONE colour at the time! It had no option to print more than ONE colour with one plate as other presses were doing using the GIORI-process!

There must have been also some complications with the Waite & Saville presses! Basically they could only do one colour at the time?! How was that managed????

The Goebel presses could print more colours in one run but then it was photogravure all over!
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The Mexican philatelists are using an elaborate scheme of classification for all later sets of definitives.

Based mainly on the type of papers and watermarks which results in about 15 series!

Here they try to follow that coming up with 9-12 series.

The main difference , however, is that the later issues are quite uniform in their methods of printing. The Archicture issues however is VERY complex as far as methods of printing are concerned!

It needs a completely different approach, which can only be rounded off after a careful studying!
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Which printing methods were involved??

- screened photogravure on the 1936 Goebel reel-fed press
- unscreened diestamping on Waite&Saville reel-fed press since 1934? Always monocoloured.
- unscreened diestamping on Waite&Saville sheet-fed press since 1934? Always bi- or tri-coloured.
- unscreened photogravure on the Goebel reel-fed press (1936-1962?)
- recess on the WIFAG reel-fed press since 1953;
- screened photogravure on the WIFAG reel-fed press since 1963;

There was only ONE WIFGA-press that could handle recess combined with photogravure.
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Screened photogravure on the 1936 Goebel reel-fed press and screen gauge R70, box-perforation 14, direction of paper horizontal :

1950-196x 3c-50c surface mail

- 1950 watermark Gobierno Mexicano
- 1953 watermark 6mm MEX-MEX plus eagle
- 1963 watermark 9mm MEX plus eagle - thickish paper - probably just a few values in any case the 50c

All on paper without optical brightening agents.
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Unscreened diestamping on Waite&Saville reel-fed press, direction of paper vertical:

1950-1953?
1p surface mail - box-perforation 14
5c-1p airmail - box perforation 10 1/2:10

- 1950 watermark Gobierno Mexicano
- 1953 watermark 6mm MEX-MEX plus eagle

All on paper without optical brightening agents.
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Unscreened diestamping on Waite&Saville sheet-fed press, direction of paper vertical:

1950-1953?
5p-20p surface mail - box-perforation 14
5p-20p airmail - box perforation 10 1/2:10

- 1950 watermark Gobierno Mexicano
- 1953 watermark 6mm MEX-MEX plus eagle

All on paper without optical brightening agents.

Some or all of these stamps may have been printed in unscreeened photogravure on a Goebel press until approx. 1962
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Screened photogravure on the 1936 Goebel reel-fed press and screen gauge R100, box-perforation 14, no coating, direction of paper horizontal :

1956-197x 5c-50c surface mail

- 1956 watermark 6mm MEX-MEX plus eagle; without optical brightening agent
- 1963 watermark 9mm MEX plus eagle - thickish paper - without optical brightening agents
- 196x watermark 6mm MEX-MEX plus eagle; WITH optical brightening agent [aka fluorescent)
- 196x watermark 9mm MEX plus eagle - thickish paper - WITH optical brightening agents [aka fluorescent)
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Screened photogravure on the 1936 Goebel reel-fed press and screen gauge R100, box-perforation 14, no coating, direction of paper horizontal :

1956-197x 5p-20p surface mail , bi-coloured

- 1962 watermark 6mm MEX-MEX plus eagle; without optical brightening agent
- 1963 watermark 9mm MEX plus eagle - thickish paper - without optical brightening agents
- 196x watermark 6mm MEX-MEX plus eagle; WITH optical brightening agent [aka fluorescent)
- 196x watermark 9mm MEX plus eagle - thickish paper - WITH optical brightening agents [aka fluorescent)
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